is there anywhere I can find old print issues of LPTJ?

[blackmajik2021]

specifically the issue #2 articles about bright eyes / Elliott smith (although of the Elliott smith article is exactly what appeared in the book 33&1/3 book then I don't need the Elliott article.

been looking for it for quite some time. No luck.

really wanna read it 

[ellaguru]

There's archive stuff here and here. Maybe it's there?

[Doctor Bob]

Pretty sure that's all electronic archive (from the olden days of funky patterned backgrounds, pre-Forum).

Someone - Andrew, I think - managed in the past to dig up online versions of old print articles, but I can't for the life of me remember where.  archive.org?

I have a couple of paper editions, but neither one is #2, alas.

[blackmajik2021]

damn. yeah I was going to say that those are all electronic articles.

well if anyone else has any tips throw them this way

*goes to check archive.org"

[Andrew_TSKS]

I don't think anything that old was ever posted on the site, unfortunately. There are some articles from issues 4 and 5 on archive.org, but I don't think anything from issues 2 and 3 is out there in digitized form.

[blackmajik2021]

this upsets me significantly. 

I would even pay money!

shit

[davy]

specifically the issue #2 articles about bright eyes / Elliott smith (although of the Elliott smith article is exactly what appeared in the book 33&1/3 book then I don't need the Elliott article.

been looking for it for quite some time. No luck.

really wanna read it 

Oh man, I actually bought that exact issue, in person, at a 1998 show in Athens. Simon Joyner opened. I still have it somewhere, but I'd have to hunt it down.

There was a bit about Afghan Whigs in there, too.

[blackmajik2021]

specifically the issue #2 articles about bright eyes / Elliott smith (although of the Elliott smith article is exactly what appeared in the book 33&1/3 book then I don't need the Elliott article.

been looking for it for quite some time. No luck.

really wanna read it 

Oh man, I actually bought that exact issue, in person, at a 1998 show in Athens. Simon Joyner opened. I still have it somewhere, but I'd have to hunt it down.

There was a bit about Afghan Whigs in there, too.

man if you would find it I would be super grateful!

I would definitely send you a cookie or drawing of love in the mail.

[simon]

I think the Elilot Smith one is available here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20021214060419/http://www.lastplanetojakarta.com/roman.html

and the Afghan Whigs here: http://web.archive.org/web/20021231095350/www.lastplanetojakarta.com/gentlemen.html

both from #2, but that's all I could find with archive.org.

[John]

wait was there something about the elliott smith piece in the 33.3 about him? hadn't heard, just curious

[blackmajik2021]

wait was there something about the elliott smith piece in the 33.3 about him? hadn't heard, just curious

about Conor? no, but there were a couple pages worth of your quotes about smith.

Actually...now that I think about it they may have mentioned him. If they did It was very brief and unsubstantial. I only read it once so I don't remember too well.

[blackmajik2021]

I think the Elilot Smith one is available here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20021214060419/http://www.lastplanetojakarta.com/roman.html

and the Afghan Whigs here: http://web.archive.org/web/20021231095350/www.lastplanetojakarta.com/gentlemen.html

both from #2, but that's all I could find with archive.org.

man....I'm bummed you couldn't find the bright eyes one. 

[Doctor Bob]

I think the Elilot Smith one is available here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20021214060419/http://www.lastplanetojakarta.com/roman.html

and the Afghan Whigs here: http://web.archive.org/web/20021231095350/www.lastplanetojakarta.com/gentlemen.html

both from #2, but that's all I could find with archive.org.

man....I'm bummed you couldn't find the bright eyes one, but thanks for taking the time to dig around for the Elliott Smith one.

Fixed.

[John]

wait was there something about the elliott smith piece in the 33.3 about him? hadn't heard, just curious

about Conor? no, but there were a couple pages worth of your quotes about smith.

Actually...now that I think about it they may have mentioned him. If they did It was very brief and unsubstantial. I only read it once so I don't remember too well.

no I meant in the e.s. one! they quote me in that? I am stoked, I was proud of that piece

[blackmajik2021]

wait was there something about the elliott smith piece in the 33.3 about him? hadn't heard, just curious

about Conor? no, but there were a couple pages worth of your quotes about smith.

Actually...now that I think about it they may have mentioned him. If they did It was very brief and unsubstantial. I only read it once so I don't remember too well.

no I meant in the e.s. one! they quote me in that? I am stoked, I was proud of that piece

yeah I just spent a couple minutes looking through the book to find it.

"In his review of XO, John Darnielle - a tremendously accomplished lyricist in his own right - eloquently described the unassuming brilliance of this verse:

one of my favorite lines in the song goes: "you look at him like you've never known him/ but i know for a fact that you have." It's the line that leads off the song's second verse, coming out of nowhere at all. The first verse.....(continued)

Then in another part they quote what you said about "pricking at emotional centers"

good stuff, youre in the glossary my friend!

[davy]

Kudos, John, that's neat!

I remember the Bright Eyes article said something about "We were one of the first zines to jump on the Bright Eyes bandwagon, and one of the first to jump back off."

So if you want to read it because you're a Bright Eyes fan, it might not be what you're expecting!

[blackmajik2021]

I know. I want to know why John didn't/doesn't like bright eyes!

but he did write it in 1998, so I could maybe understand where he(J) was coming from back then. At the time Conor was only 17/18, how mature could you expect his work to be? (even though I totally think letting off the happiness is a rad album). I also think its interesting because almost no one knew who bright eyes was in 1998, It wasn't until fevers & mirrors came out that they were really noticed. anyway....

Bright Eyes rules!
Elliott Smith rules!

[davy]

Er, Conor's work back then is a fair sight better than what he's putting out these days.

[Andrew_TSKS]

Yeah, I was gonna say, Bright Eyes only got worse from there!

[davy]

Except for I'm Wide Awake It's Morning, which I think is probably his second-best album (and the Desaparecidos record, which doesn't count), I feel like he's gotten worse with each album. That includes this awful solo stuff he's doing right now.

[blackmajik2021]

I agree that the solo stuff is awful but I think he got slowly better until I'm wide awake, which I consider his peak. After that hes been falling, with an ever-increasing speed.

[alex]

Kudos, John, that's neat!

I remember the Bright Eyes article said something about "We were one of the first zines to jump on the Bright Eyes bandwagon, and one of the first to jump back off."

So if you want to read it because you're a Bright Eyes fan, it might not be what you're expecting!

That's what the brief synopsis of issue #2 on the "In Print" page of the website says. I always took it as a retrospective comment, i.e. I assumed that the article itself stems from the short period in which LPtJ was on the bandwagon. Seems more like John's approach to writing about music, too -- can't think of many examples of John spending more than one short snide remark about something he doesn't like. Of course, I've never read the actual article, so I wouldn't know.

[jebreject]

I'm pretty sure Alex is correct.

[John]

oh I like Conor well enough, v. talented songwriter & a good musician, too, I just kinda disliked the cult-of-the-sensitive-child-poet stuff that sprang up around him when his fame first started to really get its momentum - I am very not into that kinda stuff & it puts me off too much for me to enjoy the music.

[donblood]

I came to the personality cult before the music and as a result feel like puking whenever I see Conor spelled with only one 'n'.