Who's a Drunk Poster?

[Maaik]

I am.





I had to stop myself after six options.

[Nickosaurus]

Being underaged, I rarely waste my drunkeness on the internet because I am not able to be so often.

[Andrew_TSKS]

far as i know, i am lptj's only straight edge forum member.

[bucko]

i do most of my posting at work, which happens to be a treatment facility for drug and alcohol abusers, so regardless of my alcohol intake in general i'm a straight edge poster.

NAILED TO THE X!!!

[Maaik]

I remember the day my then-high schooler brother came to me with the very earnest question: "Myke, what is straight edge?"

I told him about Minor Threat.  I told him about DC Hardcore.  I told him about the idea of not polluting one's body with drugs or alcohol or whatever.  He rolled all of this around on his pallate, and after due consideration on the topic, said, in his inimitable way, "hm, that doesn't sound anything like what those guys I go to school with are into.  What does that have to do with dancing like you're picking up change and wearing girl's pants?"

I could not provide an answer for that.

Kids these days, I tell ya.

[Andrew_TSKS]

maaik, you could tell him that straight edge has nothing to do with how you dress, and that those kids might be straight edge but were dressing/dancing that way because in addition to being straight edge, they ALSO happened to be trendy posers?

[Maaik]

I guess I was understating when I said I didn't have a response.  Mostly I told him those kids was a buncha silly fools.  I got way more mana to tap than they do and Rites of Spring has way more HP than Taking Back Sunday.

We still make fun of the girly pants-wearin mofos with the slicked down hair and the ass bandanas.  My brother's in the know.

[FreddyKnuckles]

if I post anytime between 3:30 thursday afternoon and 7 am sunday morning.  odds are I'm really drunk.

I do the T,F,S long weekend binge every week.  then recover.

[milly balgeary]

i generally depise you, unless i have been drinking

[FreddyKnuckles]

is the 'you' that you're talking about me?  or is it the person who posted this thread?  or, is it all of us in general?

[boganlux]

I'm drunk posting right now. I've been making a mix tape all night. It's 5:12 in the morning and I have a class at 9:30. I'm just going to stay up all night now, of course. I just had drank like two (maybe one and a half) shots of Vanilla Vodka and the combined two (same) more shots with two (same) shots of cheap Kahula-equalivalent to make a Black Russian. Listening to beautiful pop music all night through headphones has made me feel very very good. I wish my life was like an indie-pop song. I need to read more of this book about Romanian Communism, but it seriously seems like it has the name of every fucking Communist in Romania. Lots of sentences are paragraph long and read as follows: "Communists like...." and then a bunch of names never mentioned again. Jesus. I have a review of that book due Friday, and I'm not done with it. The book's really repititive so I think I don't actually need to read every single page super closely to be able to answer the questions about it the professor wants. Like I really need to comprehend the complex interpersonal relationships of every Communist in all Romania. Of course not. I think I'm going to listen to the tape I just made and try to underline more of the important passages from the book. Stalinsm for All Seasons by Vladmir Tismaneanu here I come. Apparently Vladimir is like "Joe" in English. My teacher's name is Vladimir. Vladimir Solonari. He was a politician in Moldovia. Super nice guy. There was a guest lecture by some other Russian named Vladimir about Russia post-Gboarchvev [yes, I know I can't spell right now but you know: the important Soviet leader of the '80s]. Okay. Later, dudes.

[FreddyKnuckles]

I've been such a damn insomniac lately.  

I need to start drinking more during the week.

[boganlux]

Oh man. Lesson for the day: don't try to follow a night of drinking and staying up with a little morning jog. Especially if you're extremely out of shape and the last thing you actually ate was some "X-TREME BUTTER Popcorn". You'll regret it very soon. I was doing 100% fine all night. Really digging the beauty of guitars and singing and whatnot recorded onto tape to send to Texas. But you get out there and it's a tinsy bit chilly and you decide to jog and your heart starts racing because you're not used to that kind of thing and you've still got a fair amount of Black Russian still in your veins... you'll regret it. No doubt. No doubt. Also, naturally, I made very little progress reading Communism in Romania, or Eastern Europe after 1945. I have two hours until class to get steady and ready and to wash this fucking awful taste out of my mouth.

[JamesSchneider]

Somewhere around 70 percent of my posts are drunk posts.

[rtotalexvii]

"hm, that doesn't sound anything like what those guys I go to school with are into.  What does that have to do with dancing like you're picking up change and wearing girl's pants?"

[SPACERACE]

My car has a folded ass bandanda.

My car is a fucking scenester.

[Marie]

We still make fun of the girly pants-wearin mofos with the slicked down hair and the ass bandanas.  My brother's in the know.

The really beautiful thing about those bandanas, queers have been flagging hankies for EVER, to communicate what they are into when cruising and shit.  Everytime I see some hardcore boy with a red bandana in their right pocket I just have to laaauuugghh and I am like "I KNOW THAT'S RIGHT DUDE!!!!  BUT DO YOU???"


I am basically on the internet exclusively when I am drunk.  Unless it is morning.  In which case I am just awesome.

[Andrew_TSKS]

yeah, those queer-culture bandanas were explained in detail on the inside cover of the limpwrist lp. unfortunately, these days instead of it being a "bandana thrash" thing, it's a hot-topic mall-core thing, and limpwrist is way too wicked underground to have ever scared these kids.

actually, i have a story: a good friend of mine was hanging out with a 19 year old hardcore girl recently (he was 24 at the time). he told me how they were sitting on her bed one day, and therefore had their shoes off. my friend was wearing white gym socks, while this girl was wearing black socks with white skull-and-crossbones patterns on them. she looked at their feet and commented, "my socks are more hardcore than yours." my friend FREAKED OUT and went off on her about how real hardcore is about wearing whatever's comfortable because fashion isn't important, and how real hardcore kids were a lot more likely to wear white gym socks than any fashionable patterned bullshit they got from hot topic (and as it turned out, that's where her socks were from). i think that was the last time my friend hung out with that girl.

anyway, the thing that story points out is that a lot of these young kids who are getting into hardcore now through the high profile some of these eyeliner-wearing pseudo-"evil" metalcore acts are developing are never finding out about where hardcore comes from, or just how different from what hardcore started out to be (and continues to be for the most part) the particular offshoot they're getting into is. to them, poison the well and their ilk are just WHAT HARDCORE IS. it's a sad turn of events, and i sometimes worry that after 25 years of surviving and thriving with a low profile, this recent explosion of more popular metalcore will be enough to kill the underground hardcore scene.

ok, rant over.

[Marie]

I LOVE HARDCORE BOYS I LOVE BOYS HARDCORE.
Limpwrist could save us ALL.

[Maaik]

i sometimes worry that after 25 years of surviving and thriving with a low profile, this recent explosion of more popular metalcore will be enough to kill the underground hardcore scene.

You sir, have finally articulated something that I've been trying to find words for these many moons past.  And not just limited to the hardcore scene, but the whole of "indie" rock.  While I don't think I believe that the overexposure of cookie-cutter major label "indie" or what have you is enough to crush a genre (although I will give that I haven't heard a lot out of ska in a while), I do find it painfully shameful that younger kids snapping up Jade Tree samplers have no idea who Ian McKaye is.  Or the folks rocking Franz Ferdinand who (a) don't know that once upon a time, there was this Archduke... and/or (b) have never heard Gang of Four.  It's not age-exclusive either.  A supervisor of mine, maybe a couple years older than me, was a big Postal Service fan.  I tried bantering with him about Death Cab for Cutie and he had no idea who I was talking about.

My MFAer friend says he's teaching creative writing to a bunch of kids who have never heard of Kurt Cobain.  Does our cultural memory only stretch back to 2001?

This cultural rift will only get wider over the next few years, with the groomed-for-the-majors bands whithering out and the underground trudging along and evolving like it's been doing for decades.  In another few years, indie rock with produce something else that's catchy enough for MTV and we'll probably be having to deal with a bunch of high schoolers who'll have never heard of the Mountain Goats/Q and not U/Merzbow/my band, etc.

And I wrote all that in these nifty jeans I bought at Hot Topic.  No joke.

[Andrew_TSKS]

haha yeah hot topic will occasionally have a t-shirt for some band i think rules, like iron maiden. so i understand buying stuff from them.

as for never having heard of kurt cobain... well, all i have to say about that is that  these kids must ignore rock radio in its entirety, as well as every major music mag, because all of those things are still pimping kurt cobain/nirvana's back catalog like they're a current band.

[swilkes]

Andrew, it sounds like your friend is sorely lacking a sense of humor. I can empathize with the girl, even if she's a Hot Topic clone--it's just socks! maybe she was making a joke, geez!  

It does bother me that young music fans are ignint of music history, whatever the genre. I remember when the Nirvana cover of "In The Pines" was all over the airwaves, and of course I kept hearing young'uns saying stuff like, "oh man, I was listening to NPR in the car with my mom, and I totally heard some crusty-sounding old dude singing that Nirvana song, some old blues guy, totally weird!" I'm a little more relaxed about it now, and figure those kids will learn their error eventually, if they're into reading about Nirvana and rock history, and if they don't, well they're not serious music fans and fuck 'em, you know? Though I gotta say, Maaik, your friend's story about kids not knowing who Cobain was is hella freaky.

Sorry, this isn't a drunk post, and I've only done one or two of those, and not flaming you or your friend, Andrew, respect etc.  :wink:

[jebreject]

My MFAer friend says he's teaching creative writing to a bunch of kids who have never heard of Kurt Cobain. Does our cultural memory only stretch back to 2001?

The majority of the people in my poetry workshop don't know who Bukowski is.

[Maaik]

Okay, that's scary.

[davy]

my godbrother, who is 13, is awesome. i recently rediscovered him, though i've known him all my life. turns out, he really dug the foo fighters. then he heard that dave grohl used to be in a band called nirvana. so he bought nirvana's greatest hits. needless to say, he really dug it. so he bought all the rest of nirvana's albums, whenever he could save enough allowance money, or wash enough cars. then he bought kurt cobain's journals. that's when he did the coolest thing of all. he noticed all the lists in the margins...all the bands mentioned here and there, all the fan letters kurt wrote. he asked around, and found the vaselines, he looked through the racks at off-beat record stores (and there are some beautiful ones in knoxville, tennessee, where he lives), and discovered the pixies. when i ate dinner with he and his family a few weeks ago, THIS KID ACTUALLY ASKED ME ABOUT HALF JAPANESE!

man, i don't know shit about half japanese. but at least i was able to help him out with the rest. he wanted the meat puppets, he wanted the stooges, he wanted beat happening, he wanted to hear it all. lovely kid. so i've been sending him mixes and burns for the past few weeks...bowie, iggy, the clash, the pixies, and the strokes, so far. there is lots more to come.

so i guess what i'm trying to say is, don't lose hope in the new kids just yet.