ricky schroder and president bush

[Ryan W]

on a lark me and some friends went to see president bush speak in phoenix on wednesday (kerry only came through flagstaff and i have a track record of getting speeding tickets everytime i venture up there so nuts to him and his out of the way campaign stop).  apart from it being the same speech word for word he delivered in florida and new mexico and the amazingly minimal participation of john mccain, what struck me most was the participation of the silver spoons kid himself, ricky schroder.  he gave quite the impromptu, bumbling speech about the virtues of bush and i actually spoke for about 4 times longer than john mccain did. and people say hollywood has a beef with bush.

[Nickosaurus]

He's not Hollywood. Pasadena at best.

[erin]

I wonder how Lalitree feels about her first celebrity crush, the Rickman, being so pro-Dubya?!?

[Ryan W]

I wonder how Lalitree feels about her first celebrity crush, the Rickman, being so pro-Dubya?!?

well if it makes her feel any better, his speech was both horribly delivered and horribly under-prepared so he couldn't have been too enthusiastic about bush's re-election or else i think he would have put some more time into writing and rehearsal.

[Roque]

My last shred of respect for McCain was flushed down the toilet when he more or less joined Dubya on the campaign trail. All right, maybe my penultimate shred. But he's got one more strike!

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[Ryan W]

actually mccain's involvement in bush's campaign hasn't really phased me from liking john mccain any less than i already did (which isn't too terribly much).  sure, he's made an erroneous final decision on who he's going to endorse (i mean how could you endorse a guy who in the primary race against you used the fact that you have a "black" child against you in southern states?) but the endorsement hasn't stopped him from criticizing bush or defending kerry.

but i think we can all agree that john o'neil is the douchiest of douche bags ever.

[Roque]

but i think we can all agree that john o'neil is the douchiest of douche bags ever.

Assuming you're talkin' about the vet & not the FBI agent, then oh yes. I wish McCain would piledrive that guy on camera. Because you know he could & you know he wants to. Unleash McCain!

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[Kath]

I think Mccain doesn't really have a choice. He keeps masquerading as a republican, so he can't openly support Kerry. I'm hoping he's sabotage-ing them from the inside.

Really though, I've met the man and although I don't really agree with him, he is a really cool guy. I doubt he really wants Bush to win.

[justinh]

see, this is exactly the issue--though mccain is a republican, it doesn't seem like many republicans like him, because he's not really that conservative.  however, most democrats seem to respect him.  i wonder what would happen if he ran for president...

[Ryan W]

see, this is exactly the issue--though mccain is a republican, it doesn't seem like many republicans like him, because he's not really that conservative.  however, most democrats seem to respect him.  i wonder what would happen if he ran for president...

i think we all saw what happens when he runs for president.......bush beats him.

[justinh]

see, this is exactly the issue--though mccain is a republican, it doesn't seem like many republicans like him, because he's not really that conservative.  however, most democrats seem to respect him.  i wonder what would happen if he ran for president...

i think we all saw what happens when he runs for president.......bush beats him.

actually, i was thinking along the lines of mccain actually winning the republican nomination -- how it would play out from there.

[stephanie]

see, this is exactly the issue--though mccain is a republican, it doesn't seem like many republicans like him, because he's not really that conservative.  however, most democrats seem to respect him.  i wonder what would happen if he ran for president...

To diverge even further from the original topic at hand:  liberals who insist John McCain isn't that bad are confusing "respectable human being"/"principled politician" with "un-Republican."

Sure, he's been known to cross party lines a few times (campaign finance, a few environmental and energy-related proposals, importing prescription drugs from Canada, this whole stupid swift boat ad thing), but the fact remains that John McCain IS a Republican -- a pretty damned conservative one, if you look at his actual voting record instead of just the situations in which he gets press (e.g. standing next to that wacky Commie I'm proud to call my senator, Russ Feingold).
EX:  McCain wants to overturn Roe vs. Wade, prohibit same-sex marriage, and amend the Constitution to ban flag desecration.  He's a staunch supporter of the death penalty, the "war on drugs," abstinence education, and loosening restrictions on gun ownership.  GW-styled Republicans don't like the dude because he calls the administration out on their most obvious bullshit, which is something even Democrats were too afraid to do until Howard Dean came along.  That doesn't change the fact that John McCain supports frigging missile defense.

Contrary to what seems to be popular opinion, a McCain presidency wouldn't be a great big deal better than another Bush presidency.

Anyway!

[trailofmusic]

thanks

[Ryan W]

mccain's aclu rating is very low.  and his supposed staunch environmentalism and energy efforts are pretty much a sham.  he refuses to meet with any of the power companies in arizona, his own state, to discuss energy and environmental issues.  i know this because my dad is the environmental manager of arizona's largest power company and he tells me not once has john mccain reached out to the company to discuss environmental or energy solutions for arizona.  he has a lot of rhetoric on the issues but by in large, fails to deliver.

and i know he gets a lot of credit for being a "straight talker" or whatever, but, i hate to break up the hate-fest here, a lot of politicians are "straight talkers" most just don't get the press coverage.  for example, arizona's junior senator john kyl.  very true to his constituents and very straight forward on issues.  conservative as it gets, but very straight forward.  and it's not like democrats are lacking in "straight talkers" either.  even before we had dean we had biden from delaware (if there's anyone from delaware on here that disagrees, please set the record straight, i'm sure you'd know more than i would).

and on a completely un-related note, alan keyes, you are currently occupying the spot formerly held by john mcneill as the douchiest guy i see on t.v. all the time.  blasting clinto for carpet bagging to ny and then going and doing that very same thing in illinois, except saying you're doing to preserve federalism so it's different?  give me a break....

[Lalitree]

I wonder how Lalitree feels about her first celebrity crush, the Rickman, being so pro-Dubya?!?

Ah well. I was in 1st grade and he was on "Silver Spoons". Little did we know the monster he'd become!