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[donblood]

That is priceless, thanks for drawing attention to it KDSB.

[davy]

"this is not emo you fucktards"

(common sense)

[G.C.R]

Yeah, that's pretty awful. I like that poor girl in the video, holding her ears all the time.

[narlus]

here's another version...brilliant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX4culcdV3g

[Killdozersnakeboy]

Foootage of the Oblivians reunion show a week or so back with an interview with Greg Cartwright as well. Choice

http://www.buddyhead.com/kill-a-punk-for-rock-roll-buddyhead-vs-oblivians/

[dieblucasdie]

[Killdozersnakeboy]

Dead Moon - Dead Moon Night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9Glgm1E6mw

[Andrew_TSKS]

Los Colorados, from Ukraine, covering "Hot And Cold" by Katy Perry

I guess this is klezmer? That's what I'd call it, but I'm relatively uneducated about Eastern European music.

[donblood]

I cannot get past that .gif of Attack Attack.  I just emailed it to Flaming Tusk, because the bass player and I are totally obsessed with Stick Stickly now.

[narlus]

the self-actualization of mankind is complete.

[Andrew_TSKS]

Buddyhead wrote about that video in their latest gossip update, in the form of a watching-the-video liveblog. It's hilarious, in my humble opinion, and since I know that some of you won't want to take the trouble to read through the rest of their gossip stuff, here's just that section of the article:

We know we’ve inflicted a lot of pain on you kids lately with the numerous crimes against music we’ve unearthed since the ‘head has gone back to being cybersexually active. Believe it or not, we usually listen to music we actually LIKE, but these things just keep finding their way to us like crabs find their way into Amy Winhouse’s pubes. Every time we think we’ve seen the worst of it, some new atrocity comes along and makes us want to start a fistfight with our parents for bringing us into a world where such things can happen. Buckle up kiddies cause we’re about to show you proof that civilization itself is ending – Attack Attack! video:

[video was embedded at this point]

Where the fuck do we even start with this? We had to send this video to other people just to make sure we’re seeing what we think we’re seeing and aren’t trapped in some nightmare. Seriously, we’re about to go off and play for keeps on this one, but whatever disses we have to follow won’t be enough, so pile on in the comments cause this shit needs to be nuked across America.

Ok let’s break this down (for best results watch clip while reading):

0:01 – The video just started and we already know it’s gonna suck because there is a lone lip pierced girl sitting in the middle of nowhere. Videos that feature some gothed up bleeder looking fragile and bummed as the main character are ALWAYS shitty. ALWAYS. We defy you to find a good one.

0:06-0:20 – Yep, as we expected, the chick was a bad omen. The “song” just kicked off in soul crushing fashion with a cookie monster “yow” and the entire band sporting stage moves that look like a cross between masturbating bear from Conan O’Brien and a fucking hermit crab. Do you realize how many friends and family members could have pulled these clowns aside and been like “Dudes, your band already sucks, let’s maybe not compound the problem by playing like you’re shitting a guitar out of your mangina”? Apparently no one felt like doing that. What that means is all of these dudes seriously have zero people in their lives that care for them and probably many that want to see them humiliate themselves on television. Bleak. Hilarious.

0:36 – …and now we’ve shifted from death grunts to singing. How fresh! Way to crowbar in that transition too there fellas! Excellent song craft, doesn’t sound forced at all. You might not have gotten the memo that was circulated circa 2002, but the screamer/singer thing sucked back when it was emo bands doing it. 7 years and a pinch of death metal didn’t sweeten the mix any.

0:58 – Synchronized guitar lifts? Were you felch-fiends male cheerleaders or something? Did you start a band after you realized all the girl cheerleaders fuck football players, not pussies who like to choreograph things?

1:01-1:06 – Fucking BUNNY HOPS?!?!?!?!  This is where we started shouting at our computer and dropping the bottles of beer we were holding in pure astonishment.

1:17-1:18 – Remember 11 seconds ago when you thought the bunny hops were the worst thing that had ever happened to your eyes? Well, the fucktard with the blond streak in his hair playing guitar next to the chubby keyboard player just blew your mind. Full crab position, shifting the weight side to side like he’s stretching either for a track meet or the world anal penetration record, guitar at penis level, looking right at you and NODDING! As if he’s going “Yep, this is happening. You can’t stop it”.

1:36-1:38 – The lead grunter is running in place while reaching his hand out and screaming. That’s actually a good call tubby, you should do more running like that, you know, on a treadmill. Who knows, maybe then you’d have a chance with the girl in your own video. Why you got your hand reached out though dude? Is the director holding out a can of Funfetti cake frosting or something? Whatever keeps you motivated I guess.

1:42-1:45 – Yet another seamless musical transition. Seriously, did you guys tab out 50 shitty riffs, put them in a hat and arrange this song in the order they were picked? We’ve see Latin American coups accomplish smoother transitions than this.

2:31-2:32 – Even the girl that’s being paid to be in this video can’t stand this shit anymore, she’s covering her ears now and then firing her agent later.

2:46-3:18 – This is where we started Googling the word “Hitman”. Everything that’s happened before has been prelude to this moment. After winning the gold medal at Lame Breakdown Olympics, these dudes follow it up at the 2:46 mark firing off the notes of music which must surely trumpet the end of days. From shitty deathcore right into Jock Jams territory without even batting an eye. Golly. Cue the shot of the entire band running in place in UNISON. Where’s the clip of some French dude scoring in a soccer game? The best part is you know these fucks thought they were really onto something when they wrestled this part onto end of the song. That keyboard player totally creams his jeans every time this part happens thinking to himself “Ok fat/shitty keyboard player, this is your moment to shine”. After all of that, just as a little cherry on top, we get the “singer” guitar player weeping about some bullshit with the autotune dimed on his vocal track like this was some cracker version of a T-Pain song.

3:24 – Ok, it’s over. We’re exhausted and pretty certain we’ve now got cancer just from watching this video. That’s all we’ve got in us, but help us get unmerciful in the comments kids. We’re pretty sure every second of this song has a dis with its name on it, so bring it. We’re gonna go huff a 30 pack of Glade cans in the hope we might annihilate the brain cells that processed this video.

I love that they also were horrified about the techno/autotune breakdown.

[davy]

hahaha "masturbating bear and a hermit crab"

[narlus]

[Andrew_TSKS]

That kind of shit has been going on in metalcore for about a decade, though. I remember once one of TSKS's many bassists loaned a guitar to a metalcore band and their guitarist smashed it trying to spin it around his back during pauses between chugs. Real classy, huh? But yeah, all that synchronized swimming bullshit is very old hat in certain circles, and I'm guessing this Attack Attack video is the first time that the wider, less-familiar-with-the-metalcore-scene world is seeing it.

[Andrew_TSKS]

It's kind of like how the first time I posted this:



most of you had no idea what you were looking at, but I've been seeing it at shows since the mid-90s. That kind of thing.

[Andrew_TSKS]

For example, check out all the silly shit Unearth's guitar players do in this video (filmed 5 or 6 years ago):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5COudX9b2i0

...especially at 2:10 or so when the big mosh part first comes in.

Actually, now that I think of it, I think Dillinger Escape Plan started all this.

Dillinger Escape Plan play "43% Burnt" at Furnace Fest 2002

[donblood]

Andrew, it's maybe not that people are performing silly stage moves and more that they're doing it for that music.

[Andrew_TSKS]

Yeah, well, I'd say Attack Attack, while at the limits, are nonetheless a pretty accurate picture of the state of metalcore's devolution in 2009. It is pretty much neither "metal" nor "core" at this late date. In three years, there'll be a hundred bands that sound like that.

[Killdozersnakeboy]

Joy Division cover on steel drums? Why yes please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mm6ycEz2A8

[davy]

Man, metalcore seems like the worst shit imaginable.

[Andrew_TSKS]

It didn't start out that way. And I actually really like early Dillinger Escape Plan, I just never liked their onstage behavior, which seemed posed out to the max to me. But yeah, bands like Botch, Creation Is Crucifixion, Coalesce, Suicide Nation, even Every Time I Die and Converge, these are some of my favorite bands.

[Thermofusion]

I actually used to have Calculating Infinity on disc because a dude in one of my music theory classes selected one of the songs as the piece he wanted us to analyze that day...we all got a big kick out of it.

And Jesus this "Stick Stickly" song is a clusterfuck

[mixed cats]

I remember almost getting conked in the head with DEP guitars due to stage antics. And almost getting conked in the head by mics because the singer of Drowningman likes to pretend he's a helicopter.

I think those bands actually had sort of brutal sounds that could have gone hand in hand with acting like an asshole (though I wouldn't condone it), but now it's just like "We sing about goth chicks and this is 100% posturing, if I actually hit someone in the crowd and was confronted I would pee myself."

[Andrew_TSKS]

Yeah, Drowningman is a great citation. A) they rule (ruled? I'm never sure at any given time whether that band is together or not), and B) Simon Brody (aforementioned singer/only constant member) is a certifiable nutcase. My friend Catie used to work with him at Interpunk and she told me a story about them going out to a work dinner and Simon sneaking a beer bong in under his shirt and suddenly bonging a beer right in the middle of the meal. Actually, I think he did it multiple times.

But yes, dudes like Simon or Keith Buckley of Every Time I Die or Jake Bannon of Converge behaved the way they did onstage because they were either crazy or total dicks or both. The bands these days have just watched it on DVDs and internet videos and decided it's a good outlet for their jock-like macho tendencies. And as to their inability to handle an actual confrontation, I couldn't agree more.

[davy]

It didn't start out that way. And I actually really like early Dillinger Escape Plan, I just never liked their onstage behavior, which seemed posed out to the max to me. But yeah, bands like Botch, Creation Is Crucifixion, Coalesce, Suicide Nation, even Every Time I Die and Converge, these are some of my favorite bands.

When I saw Converge open for Mastodon, I didn't get any sort of metalcore vibe at all. No choreography, that's for sure. Seemed pretty genuine, and they rocked the fuck out of the place...maybe more so than Mastodon.