dead child

[Andrew_TSKS]

what's interesting about this, john, is that interviews i've read with pajo about his early days in slint have explicitly referenced his pre-slint interest in metal and how that influenced the type of guitar sound he had in that band. apparently that's something else pajo has in common with billy corgan; his metal past. which might explain why the two felt kinship enough to play together in zwan--both of them have obvious metal influences, and no one ever wants to credit such an influence to either of them.

so actually, even the people who rely overmuch on authenticity can't give pajo shit for playing metal now--he's just getting back to his roots. that said, i agree with your thesis completely.

[Hillary Rodham Clinton]

NEXT

[Ah_Pook]

my sum total knowledge of dead child is that theyve got a wicked sweet logo

have to check out the band sometime, now

[Ah_Pook]

upon listening to the tracks on their myspace... not so good. also the logo on their myspace is not the same as the sweet logo on their website.

also, they have thrash up as one of the genre tags on their myspace, so calling someone out on that is i dunno. i mean they obviously arent thrash at all, but whos really to blame.

[jebreject]

I get freaked out every time I see this thread, 'cause I forget it's about a band called Dead Child.

[John]

upon listening to the tracks on their myspace

are you baiting me or something

[Ah_Pook]

how do you recommend finding out about new music if not by checking out tracks by bands that get recommended to you then? myspace seems a pretty convenient way to do just that.

[Ah_Pook]

see, now im baiting you

[John]

mmm please let me eat this delicious bait

well, just from this side of things, I'd be hesitant to attribute what's on a band's Myspace to the band - many, many bands get asked by their labels "can we make you a Myspace?" and the bands say "yeah do whatever you like" - practically everybody I know wants nothing to do with it but knows that from a business perspective it's kinda dumb to stand on principle about it. I mean I guess if you want to be a hardass you can say "oh but they had to approve it" but most bands approving their Myspaces take a brief look at it and say "yeah, whatever, frankly I don't wanna have to think about it." Myspace is a humiliating market reality rather than a real representation of a band.

otherwise I was just sorta playing in character - listening a little to get the idea from Myspace pages seems fair enuf - not sure where you stand on pre-death/black metal style metal but that's obviously where these dudes are coming from - Pentagram divided by NWOBHM sorta

[elpollodiablo]

Myspace is a humiliating market reality rather than a real representation of a band.

Or a person. It seems to represent products fairly well, though, since it is essentially a very big multimedia advertisement.

[jebreject]

You mean a band isn't just a product?

[John]

Myspace is a humiliating market reality rather than a real representation of a band.

Or a person. It seems to represent products fairly well, though, since it is essentially a very big multimedia advertisement.

as you know, this is where you and I part ways, because I don't think of an album as information or data but as a work, and I think the definition of what constitutes a work is vast & slippery

[John]

(ditto an EP, etc etc etc ad infinitum)

[elpollodiablo]

Myspace is a humiliating market reality rather than a real representation of a band.

Or a person. It seems to represent products fairly well, though, since it is essentially a very big multimedia advertisement.

as you know, this is where you and I part ways, because I don't think of an album as information or data but as a work, and I think the definition of what constitutes a work is vast & slippery

Not really what I was getting at, but yeah. Meant more that MySpace is a product vehicle, and insofar as a record/movie/band/social movement is marketable and brandable, MySpace facilitates both. Content notwithstanding, it's about as deep as a billboard, and less tasteful.

[WhereTheSlimeLive]

i like their name

[Nick Ink]

i like their name

May I ask, why? Cos it kind of makes me feel sick.

[jebreject]

me too, actually

[Nick Ink]

me too, actually

But I know I'm over-sensitive. I remember being nicely told off for saying something similar about My Dad Is Dead. I've gone very soft in my old age really.

[jebreject]

that thread and this one are the same for me. my first reaction upon seeing the thread title is to sort of freak out, before realizing that they are band names

[Nick Ink]

I think, to be fair, my dad had died not long before and I really couldn't get my head around why a band would name themselves after what is more or less the most traumatic experience in most people's lives.

But I suppose they're probably just kids whose own dads aren't much older than me. Grumble, grumble (shakes walking stick at youth of today)

sidenote - Natural Snow Buildings - that's my kind of band name!

[elpollodiablo]

Naming your band after dead babies and personal tragedies makes you RAW

[martin_van_buren]

That's why I've named my band Dead Baby & the Personal Tragedies. We play ska, but RAW.

[Andrew_TSKS]

I think, to be fair, my dad had died not long before and I really couldn't get my head around why a band would name themselves after what is more or less the most traumatic experience in most people's lives.

But I suppose they're probably just kids whose own dads aren't much older than me. Grumble, grumble (shakes walking stick at youth of today)

well, actually, mark edwards has been doing my d** is d*** since 1985, which i would bet means he's somewhere around your age if not older than you. d*** ch*** are a new band, but if david pajo is in it, well, he's 40. i'm pretty sure d*** ch*** are just trying to be brutal (and brutal metal band names are generally in poor taste to at least someone if not everyone. hell, my mom was appalled in 1991 when i bought an album by the smiths called "meat is murder", and the smiths aren't even remotely metal), but i think my d** is d*** was a name mark edwards picked because his own father passing away was an event that had had a great effect on him in his personal life. which i suppose is something you can identify with, even if you don't appreciate his way of expressing such a thing.

EDIT: hmm, or not. from mark edwards's blog:

I think its pretty funny that a My Dad Is Dead anagram is "Dad Dismayed", which I'm sure he is, wherever he is, that I chose that for a band name all those yrs ago.

[Good Intentions]

Some time has passed since then.

As far as I know, you're right and it's a given that Mark Edwards name MDID after his father's passing.

[difficult]

I always liked My Dad Is Dead as a band name actually - There's no sense of time placement inherent in it, its just an observation, tossed out there - there's a strong intimation of casual power inherent in it as a statement.
Like "this meant something to me, but I can just deal with it now".
Many people's parents are dead... I don't find it strange fo be conscious of that. This doesn't feel to me like a band name designed to be shocking at all.Just reflective of something