Doctor, doctor, give me the news...(new LPtJ MD thread)

[Bernard]

Don't be sorry I don't have cancer!

In other news, whooping cough outbreak in CA. Man, I wish I knew where the other parents in the YMCA fall on the granola spectrum. My baby is too cute to be coughing her little brains out!

[clare]

Oh yeah, it's a dilermma for sure. It's doing the rounds here again too. Last year the govt introduced free vax for parents and grandparents of children under 12 months to try to get a 'bubble' of vaxed people around babies. Unfortunately we missed that window, because I'm not sure I've ever been vaxed for whooping cough. When I was with my anti-vax ex quite a lot of the reading I did (not all of it that scary actually) suggested that it's the hardest one to vax for, and the vax isn't that efficient in terms of stopping the disease, and it's efficiency decreases as the person gets older...(which the anti-vaxers use as an argument not to do it at all) but the does seem to agree that while it's not terribly effective at stopping it, it does reduce the severity of the disease and stops babies dying from it, which has got to be a good thing in my book... She is a very cute baby, and whooping cough isn't at all cute. Good luck there.

[Bernard]

I feel kind of shitty about not wanting my kid to be around unvaccinated children, even in what is now officially an epidemic, because there's just something viscerally insulting about somebody not wanting their kid around yours, even if you understand the other parent is making a medical rather than moral judgment. I really don't want to give other parents shit about decisions they clearly have made with honesty and thoughtfulness and believe is in their child's best interest. On the other hand, HT just got over a virus, and though it was just a regular ole cold, I was a wreck watching her feel ill. Apparently the entire state of California has an opt-out for vaccinations (for schools) so now the need to move is feeling more pressing.

[clare]

Yep, I hear you on all of those counts. The whole "making decisions for someone else's wellbeing" is a huge parenting challenge. I often wake up worried that I've made the wrong one. Hang in there. I reckon the crunchy mothers are going to feel judged no matter what (it's part of the crunch I think ;-) so if you just do what you and HT need to do....  I had a hard time when D was small as every time he got sick, he got really sick - high fevers with vomiting from every single thing, that I would get annoyed if people didn't tell me that their kid was sick and we were hanging out. Clearly it wasn't a big thing for them if their kid had a cold, but if mine got one, it was days that I had to spend holding a sick child all the time....blah.

[RavingLunatic]

I feel kind of shitty about not wanting my kid to be around unvaccinated children, even in what is now officially an epidemic, because there's just something viscerally insulting about somebody not wanting their kid around yours, even if you understand the other parent is making a medical rather than moral judgment.

Thing is, since they are putting other people's kids at risk, that other parent is making a moral judgment. I know a lot of people who don't get their kids vaccinated are just convinced that vaccines cause all sorts of horrible things, but even if you believe vaccines have negative side effects, you're still being a free-rider, benefiting from other people's decision to vaccinate. I think the only way you can morally justify non-vaccination is if you genuinely think everyone would be better off if no one vaccinated.

[davy]

Fucking hell, I'm sick as balls. Picked up Finn's rotavirus. I am a living, breathing body ache, which is still an improvement over last night, when I was a living, breathing, vomiting body ache.

Honestly, I don't understand how he dealt with this shit as calmly as he did. I feel like absolute hell.

[Nick Ink]

I'm always amazed how well my girls deal with feeling ill.

Hope you're on the mend there, wavy davy.

[davy]

Yeah man, Finn was just like "Welp, time to be sick for a while. Better man up and take it."

I was all, "Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa."

But it appears to be a 24-36 hour thing because I'm feeling much better today.

[El_Josharino]

I've got this horrible, excruciating fucking toothache underneath a crown that I had put on a few years ago. It started yesterday morning and has gotten progressively more painful.

Whiskey is the appropriate treatment, yes?

[El_Josharino]

(jk everybody, earlier today I was like "fuck this" and called the dentist and told them to get me in asap, which is tomorrow afternoon. I'm still drinking whiskey now, though, in the hopes of getting some sleep tonight. I'm never jk when I say I'm drinking whiskey)

[nonotyet]

I have some questions.

Despite the way my clothes fit and despite the fact that I am on this twice-weekly intensive weights routine at my gym and despite the fact that I am not supposed to fucking care about what the scale says, it is about how I feel, which is better than I have in years and years, over the past three weeks the scale at the gym says that I have been steadily gaining weight (not anything huge, just an extra pound or so every time I have checked.)  I just walked into a doctor's office looking for something and there was a scale and I was like "oh, scale," and I was in my shoes and everything but I have apparently gained three pounds since last night.

What is up with this? When are you supposed to weigh yourself? I have not changed anything about my diet. What is the margin of error when using an electronic scale? Every time someone on The Biggest Loser is like "I gained muscle weight" the trainers are like "BULLSHIT."   

[FreddyKnuckles]

1. You gained muscle weight.  The reason it is bullshit for them is because they're obese.  Anything they could have done to gain muscle weight would have been offset if they'd followed their diet and done whatever they did to gain the muscle weight.

2.  Weigh yourself first thing in the morning before you drink any water or anything and before you eat anything.  You can fluctuate a few lbs pretty easily throughout the day, especially if you've just chugged some water or eaten.

3.  Always use the same scale to measure yourself.  You'd be pretty surprised at how much they can vary.  The scale at the gym says I'm ten pounds lighter than the one i own. 

[kadiekatRN]

Also, unless you have kidney problems and you WANT to measure water weight, you really only should weigh yourself once a week.

[G.C.R]

Also, man, gym scales. The ones at my gym are busted all to shit because, according to the trainer, theres a few six and a half foot Samoan bodybuilders who weigh 200kg or something who get on them and then they get all out of whack. I got on some properly calibrated scales and apparntly weigh five kgs less than the gym scales had led me to believe.

[FreddyKnuckles]

on the one in my gym, the little thingy to zero it out is locked, so its absolutely worthless.  I can see it ain't at zero just sitting there.  Let me fix the fuckin' thing!

[jm]

new thr0d here:
http://www.lastplanetojakarta.com/forums/index.php/topic,12884.0.html