"Not the art of scholars but of illiterates." (new movie thread)

[Maaik]

You know, saying that you're not allowed to judge whether the book or the movie is better is like saying you're not allowed to judge whether a cover song is better or worse than the original.

So well put.

[Ah_Pook]

a cover song is still a song though, theyre a lot more directly comparable than a book and a movie.

[Andrew_TSKS]

Ehhh. Books and movies both tell stories, you know?

[Anne the Man]

But without the original the superior cover wouldn't be there at all...

[Andrew_TSKS]

Without the book the movie wouldn't be there at all. I think that means you're agreeing with me, right?

[G.C.R]

So for our last three film classes we've been watching only Renoir films, and man, what is wrong with people? I know they should've started out with the really good stuff, so in the respect screening La regle de jeu last was a silly idea. But, this is film studies, and even if you personally don't like Renoir, it seems like you'd want to stay and watch the films for their mere historical importance, right? For la regle de jeu there were only 8 people who attended. Out of a class of 60.
Not the art of scholars but of illiterates indeed.

[Anne the Man]

At Andrew, I'm not sure...I've only had time to skim-read the previous arguments so I don't quite know where it's going but yes I agree with that. I don't think I could really say the BBC Pride and Prejudice is better than the book, for example.

[mixed cats]

But it is probably the best film adaptation out of all the film adaptations thus far MOSTLY BECAUSE OF COLIN FIRTH IN HIGH COLLARS.

[lastclearchance]

So for our last three film classes we've been watching only Renoir films, and man, what is wrong with people? I know they should've started out with the really good stuff, so in the respect screening La regle de jeu last was a silly idea. But, this is film studies, and even if you personally don't like Renoir, it seems like you'd want to stay and watch the films for their mere historical importance, right? For la regle de jeu there were only 8 people who attended. Out of a class of 60.
Not the art of scholars but of illiterates indeed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMYAtgapMro

[G.C.R]

Ha! That's actually one of the sweetest things I've seen the Coens do.

[Andrew_TSKS]

Yeah, that fucking ruled!

[auto-da-fey]

that was the first theater I went to when I moved to Los Angeles, to see Takashi Miike's Audition, in the fall of 2001! I never fell in love with the place though, because of my somewhat misguided westside-aversion.

and yeah, 8 out of 60 is pretty sad.

[auto-da-fey]

that was the first theater I went to when I moved to Los Angeles, to see Takashi Miike's Audition, in the fall of 2001!

oh shit, no it's not. it just LOOKS like the Nuart. oops. the Aero didn't even exist at the time, and I've never been there because the Egyptian gets all the good stuff. oh well.

[coldforge]

I enjoyed that short, but the fact that he corrected him and said they were speaking 'Turkic' doesn't make a god damned lick of sense. Ain't no language called Turkic.

[Ignatius]

So for our last three film classes we've been watching only Renoir films, and man, what is wrong with people? I know they should've started out with the really good stuff, so in the respect screening La regle de jeu last was a silly idea. But, this is film studies, and even if you personally don't like Renoir, it seems like you'd want to stay and watch the films for their mere historical importance, right? For la regle de jeu there were only 8 people who attended. Out of a class of 60.
Not the art of scholars but of illiterates indeed.

People cut film showings? What the hell... I go to the movies to make myself feel better when I cut lectures...

[Babar]

You know, saying that you're not allowed to judge whether the book or the movie is better is like saying you're not allowed to judge whether a cover song is better or worse than the original.

no that's like remakings of movies which are much more easily compared. like, the Scarface film with Al Pacino is kinda like "All Along the Watchtower" where everybody has forgotten the original film/song. and sure, films and books both tell stories but in a totally different way.  comics come closer to the film artform than books because they have the visuals but it's still totally different. i'm not saying it's not allowed, just that I sometimes can't compare a book and a film that tell the same story on the same level.

[elpollodiablo]

Iceland either has some really good drugs or some really bad schools.

[Maaik]

What I believe my esteemed colleague is trying to say is that in regards to this:

a book and a film that tell the same story on the same level.

...a book and movie may be telling the same story, but they are most certainly on different levels.  It is the disparity in those levels which create room for critique.  Your inability to do that I guess just means, hey, don't be a film critic I guess.

[Babar]

hmm, i think i'd be a pretty good film critic actually. let's just agree to differ.

and pollo, this type of insult coming from you is laughable.

[elpollodiablo]

Let's just agree to differ.

[mixed cats]

District 9 was very good, and very sad, and I loved it.

[elpollodiablo]

Funny, I was coming to this thread to ask what people thought of it! I think I'll catch it this week.

[Black Amnesia of Heaven]

Ponyo was pretty fucking amazing. Probably the most outright beautifully-animated opening sequence in any Miyazaki film. A sweet and unassuming film in the vein of Totoro or Kiki's Delivery Service.

[Andrew_TSKS]

OK, I haven't watched this yet, but it sure has piqued my interest:

"Zombie Girl," a documentary about a 12 year old girl who has written and is directing a low-budget zombie movie

Heartless Doll suggests she be tapped to direct the next "Twilight" sequel, which sounds good to me.

[milly balgeary]

i too saw ponyo. grrreat.