Pavement Reunion?

[davy]

I'm not someone who is typically affected by such things (hence my love for the White Stripes, who have the boringest drummer ever), but yeah, I guess for you that might be the case.

There's really no question that Pavement would've been a musically superior band had Gary Young remained behind the kit. Of course, that's only if he was able to behave himself, and aye, there's the rub.

But seriously, the drumming on Slanted and Watery Domestic is actually quite good. It's creative, snappy, powerful, subtle...certainly better than his legacy dictates.

[davy]

But guys, Westie wasn't a bad or even boring drummer. He certainly had his moments; most of them on Wowee Zowee. He just wasn't a singular talent like Gary Young...and he never came unhinged.

[narlus]

I felt the same about the pixies movie, both meh but that the whole pressure thing was interesting as somone who doesn't know "the industry."  I remember a long time ago reading an interview with Frank Black and he basically said, "hey, I'm a musician so I'm not supposed to care about having a house?  I like to order a second drink at dinner and not worry about whether I can afford such a luxury, and I want to play music as a career, so if I can be financially successful I'm not going to not try for it."

I liked the directness and honesty of it.  That was before a reunion was in the works, but it might have been mentioned in the interview.

excellent point.  i love how uppity some people get about others' financial decisions, without knowing anything about their context.

[davy]

Man, I  "Our Singer." Nobody ever talks about that song, man. I think it's brilliant.

That was kind of a random comment, I guess. Sorry! I've been listenin' to the oldies.

[sashwap]

Man, I  "Our Singer." Nobody ever talks about that song, man. I think it's brilliant.

That was kind of a random comment, I guess. Sorry! I've been listenin' to the oldies.

me too!

and i'm playing terror twilight now. it's been too long. wow, "platform blues"

[sashwap]

But guys, Westie wasn't a bad or even boring drummer. He certainly had his moments; most of them on Wowee Zowee. He just wasn't a singular talent like Gary Young...and he never came unhinged.

i'm surprised more people didn't call bullshit when matador said it was gary young drumming on "all my friends." i don't even have a good ear for that stuff, but it totally didn't sound like it to me, and later someone at matador confirmed it for me that it was westie.

[davy]

Man, I  "Our Singer." Nobody ever talks about that song, man. I think it's brilliant.

That was kind of a random comment, I guess. Sorry! I've been listenin' to the oldies.

me too!

and i'm playing terror twilight now. it's been too long. wow, "platform blues"

Terror Twilight is both way better and way more strange than people give it credit for these days.

[davy]

But guys, Westie wasn't a bad or even boring drummer. He certainly had his moments; most of them on Wowee Zowee. He just wasn't a singular talent like Gary Young...and he never came unhinged.

i'm surprised more people didn't call bullshit when matador said it was gary young drumming on "all my friends." i don't even have a good ear for that stuff, but it totally didn't sound like it to me, and later someone at matador confirmed it for me that it was westie.

Weird, I never heard that rumor. But yeah, I mean, you can tell within 2 bars that it's not Gary.

[Snarfyguy]

Now that this has become a general discussion about Pavement, allow me to point out the fact that their best record is Perfect Sound Forever.

Thank you.

[narlus]

Now that this has become a general discussion about Pavement, allow me to point out the fact that their best record is Perfect Sound Forever.

Thank you.

and their best song is 'angel carver blues/mellow jazz docent'

[dieblucasdie]

Now that this has become a general discussion about Pavement, let me just say that show me a word that rhymes with Pavement, and I won't kill your parents

[ieatrats]

My #1 ep of all time has not changed since I first heard it when it came out:  Watery, Domestic.

Under 12 minutes, every song great, that weird xylophone/key tone at the beginning of Linden makes for a perfect side split (though I've only ever had the cd).  Lyrics are just oblique enough you never really feel you know what Malk's on about but the delivery is emotional and committed enough that you can really get behind it without ever tiring of it and going oh well I don't feel like that anymore.  Playing it now.  Man everything on this record sounds perfect to me.  I still will not split Texas Never Whispers and Frontwards if I want one of them on a mix.

I've seen the ep with Give it a Day used maybe 5 times since it came out and I always want to buy it just to give it to someone who doesn't have it without having a particular person in mind.

I always don't because I know there is some Pavement fan who will see it and run home and play Give it a Day on repeat for the next week.

[davy]

"Give It a Day" is on the shortlist for my all-time favorite Pavement song. And I agree about Watery, Domestic, too. I remember the first time I heard the drum fill that kicks off "Lions"...I tried for a few days to emulate it before I gave up. I still can't play that shit.

[mixed cats]

I agree about Watery, Domestic - it's a high concentration of awesome.

Debating trying to buy tickets at work tomorrow. Hate outdoor concerts. Love Pavement. Don't really give a shit about hype. WHAT WINS?!

[davy]

Has anybody said how $$$?

[mixed cats]

Not that I'm aware of

[mixed cats]

I hate that ticketmaster won't put the price up before things go on sale GARRRRGH

[Andrew_TSKS]

Lyrics are just oblique enough you never really feel you know what Malk's on about but the delivery is emotional and committed enough that you can really get behind it without ever tiring of it and going oh well I don't feel like that anymore.

I can tell you one of them: "Feed Em To The Lions (Linden)" is about a high school football game. Pavement were from Stockton CA, and Linden is a nearby town. They either went to Linden High School (mascot: the Lions) or to a district rival, but regardless, that's definitely what that song's about.

[davy]

Open up your purses
For the boys to reimburse us
With a goal line stand on 4th and 2

[mixed cats]

I was under the impression at least half their [early?] songs are about how northern California is better than southern California (most obviously repped in "Two States"). And probably why they liked to cover CCR's "Lodi" so much

[ieatrats]

That's one of the few cases where I knew what the song was about and that made me enjoy the line davy quoted even more, even though it's obviously about a football game/team.  That had to have been learned on the Pavement list.

I would go so far to say that it made me like Pavement more since they were broad enough to like write obscure freeish poetry but also sound pretty lauding of a football team.  Maybe that makes me sound snobby - I don't mean it that way at all.

(how many ex-pavement list people are on here I wonder?  And grownups heh.  I was on there from 94 or 95 to 98 or so)

(I forgot that was the first time I met internets people - met three folks from the list at a Sebadoh show and we all kind of stood awkwardly heh)

Oh and I forgot I saw Pavement at Lollapalooza and they were lame and seemed unimpressed with playing to a big crowd.  Yet for my name-calling I'm still debating signing up to buy stupid tickets.  I put 5:2 that if this is their first reunited show they will be super happy and psyched to play to a huge adoring crowd and play an awesome show.

[davy]

Yeah, I was on that list. It was my introduction, for all intents and purposes, to the indie rock community. Every time somebody mentioned a band, I checked them out.

[davy]

I put 5:2 that if this is their first reunited show they will be super happy and psyched to play to a huge adoring crowd and play an awesome show.

Ibold may well pass out from the happiness.

[mixed cats]

OK, I'll see you all next week, except for you Mark. You're out of the band.
BUT I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN PLAY!
Yeah you're making the rest of us look bad

[reebty]

re Old to Begin, I tend to think the same thing. I think of it and Type Slowly as the two epics in the middle. Type Slowly is of legitimately epic length for a Pavement song, but I tend not to think of it as being two minutes longer than Old to Begin.