Generation Null: LOL(some)conservatives Thread

[YojimboMonkey]

green bottles dogg


nah actually I had Yuengling once in Nashville earlier this year when I was helping my sister move and it went a treat with the spicy-as-fuck fried chicken I got there. Damn near took the whole 6-pack to wash that down.

[dieblucasdie]

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/engel/111115

Pope Benedict, man, that dude is too soft on abortion

[Thermofusion]

Best shitty beers (american mass-produced lagers)

Coors Original (few people drink this stuff, but it is 5% alcohol and by FAR the best shit beer)
PBR (but only if you drink less than 3)
Coors lite (but only before noon)
Busch lite
Busch
High life
High life lite
MGD
Miller lite

No mention of Yuengling?

Fuck you motherfucker

[Thermofusion]

To clarify: Yuengling isn't a shitty beer

[peacocks]

well that's what I said!

[Antero]

The greatest chain of man-boy thigh-sex the world will ever see.

A+

[Thermofusion]

well that's what I said!

Believe me, I noticed, and I put another checkmark next to your name

Davy you on thin ice bro

[YojimboMonkey]

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/engel/111115

Pope Benedict, man, that dude is too soft on abortion

Couldn't get through it, clicked through to another post, the jist of which was that Gays are the real homophobes.

To clarify: Yuengling isn't a shitty beer

If you are using "shitty beer" as a synonym for the beers that would fall under BJCP style categories 1a (Lite American Lager, e.g. Miller Lite, Bud Light, Coors Light, Amstel Light), 1b (Standard American Lager, e.g. Miller High Life, Budweiser, Kirin Lager, Molson Golden, Corona Extra, Foster's Lager) and 1c (Premium American Lager, e.g. Miller Genuine Draft, Michelob, Coors Extra Gold, Heineken, Beck's, Stella Artois, Singha)* as I believe FK was probably doing, then Yuengling would be an example of a beer that belies the descriptor.

* http://www.bjcp.org/styles04/Category1.php

[davy]

All I'm saying is: Yuengling costs the same as cheap beer (~$5 or $6 a six-pack), so why is not the best cheap beer?

[Thermofusion]

FK said shitty, not cheap! You want me to venn diagram this bitch?

[elpollodiablo]

Yuengling is cheap, drinkable, and not much better than Coors, PBR, or High Life.

[coldforge]

The problem, davy, is you are applying an essentially descriptivist approach to the problem of names to Knucks's list, whereas what's called for here is clearly a Kripkean, or causal/historical, tack. Viz., while Knucks might have compiled a list that seemed to describe the set of American mass-produced lagers—a descriptor that would also obtain for Yuengling, as well—a more pragmatic, contextual approach would indicate that (and I recognize that Freddy and I open ourselves up to No True Scotsmanism here) in addition to all possessing the descriptors which Freddy's nomenclature would seem to encompass, in fact its more actual role in discourse was to refer—conditionally—to a style of beer which I believe Jimbo has rightly identified as the Lite American Lager.

A cursory engagement with Kripke's lectures, collected under the title Naming and Necessity, should clear this up. Alternately, I believe a reexamination of the work of Paul Grice in the realm of pragmatics will leave you with a helpful set of heuristics to avoid such confusion in the future.

[Thermofusion]

Yuengling is cheap, drinkable, and not much better than Coors, PBR, or High Life.

Talk about damning by faint praise, g. My urine is better than Coors.

Also I think the Yuengling "Black & Tan" is even better than the Lager, anyone else drink that stuff? It's been the staple beer in my fridge for a long time.

[Good Intentions]

It's not necessary to read Kripke to understand 'shit beer'. If what was meant was the type of categorisation like what Jim pointed to, then yes, the causal theorist has something to say about that. But that's exactly the matter at issue. I'm not sure 'shit beer' is a natural kind, which is what the causal theory is supposed to handle. To me it just looks like a straightforward description, every day of the week. And I'm fucked if I know what conversational implicature has to do with it, unless we are supposed to have the background assumption that no beer of that style could be any good, which strikes me as very implausible.

[coldforge]

Sometimes I think that tongue-in-cheek overanalysis and misapplication of philosophical and linguistic theory, and po-faced pedantic correction, are the two-stroke internal combustion that powers LPTJ.

[Good Intentions]

It's marking season around here - for the time being I am utterly incapable of seeing any overanalysis and misapplication as tongue-in-the-cheek, given all the painfully earnest examples I'm running into in the wild just now.

[peacocks]

Yuengling is cheap, drinkable, and not much better than Coors, PBR, or High Life.

Talk about damning by faint praise, g. My urine is better than Coors.

Also I think the Yuengling "Black & Tan" is even better than the Lager, anyone else drink that stuff? It's been the staple beer in my fridge for a long time.

Yeah, the black & tan is yummy and I prefer it.

Sometimes I think that tongue-in-cheek overanalysis and misapplication of philosophical and linguistic theory, and po-faced pedantic correction, are the two-stroke internal combustion that powers LPTJ.

this is what makes LPTJ so fun.

[dieblucasdie]

Susan Archer of ABC News reports that Cain declared at campaign event in Nashua, New Hampshire: “We need a leader, not a reader.”

Corroborating the reports that this is something Cain…actually…said, Steve Peoples of the Associated Press also reports Cain saying that knowing every detail is not important: “We need a leader, not a reader.”

[Antero]

 

[elpollodiablo]

Cain be a leader, not a follower

[Thermofusion]

Some highlights from a stupid Charlotte Observer interview with the prez of Chik-Fil-A:

Q: How's [the recession] affecting your business?

It's helped us big-time on the labor market. Ten years ago, the biggest challenger our operators faced was getting enough labor. Now, we've got the pick of the market. We've used it the last two or three years to really upgrade the caliber of people that are behind these counters.

"Thanks to everyone being out of work, we're no longer forced to hire black people or Mexicans."

We support a Biblical view of who the family is. We're in a crisis in America right now, where we're asking what constitutes a marriage, and we know that so many couples are having children but they're not married. Long term, that is devastating to a community and society. We have to employ these children, and when they walk in here it's very important for us to have the moral code kind of written into them, things like honesty, integrity, fairness.

It's a large task for us as employers to try to make up all the lost ground they didn't get when they didn't have a mom or a dad. So anything to shore up and to strengthen the family is what Chick-fil-A is all about.

We may be challenged with that, but that's our position and we're going to stay the course. We're not critical of others, we're simply saying we need to have a society and a culture that represents traditional family values.

Q: What else does Chick-fil-A do to encourage the family values you're talking about?

We do events here called "Daddy-Daughter Date Night."

[peacocks]

hold on I have to go hurl out all the remnants of old chick-fil-a I ate in high school when I was obsessed with waffle fries and polynesian sauce.

oh, maybe this is what colonics are for.

[Thermofusion]

Yeah I mean Chik-fil-A is delicious, but I can't in good conscience help line the pockets of those dudes. I'd rather go to Bojangles, anyway.

[elpollodiablo]

God fucking dammit why did I ever have to learn anything about those assholes' politics.

[cold before sunrise]

i think it says more about yourself if you think that "upgrading the caliber of the people behind the counter" means hiring white people (because that's not what he said, and finding good staff is the hardest thing about running a business) and find "daddy-daughter date night" problematic. what's wrong with you? biblical family values can be troublesome because they don't recognize love for what it is, the most important thing of all (to anybody who wasn't born with sociopathic, psychopathic or dyssocial personality disorders), and dude might be misguided but at least he's trying to do the right thing. there's something to be said for giving a shit.