More Talk of Comics

[Good Intentions]

Special Achewood for all of you metal people today

The inevitable follow-up of having metal get a lot of media attention.

I guess its back to smoking blunts in parking lots.

[elpollodiablo]

What the hell are you talking about

[das kranke Tier]

Finally got my hands on a copy of "The Sinestro Corps. War"

Fuckin' stoked!

[das kranke Tier]

Miles, you've got to explain the new sig...

[elpollodiablo]

Whhhhyyyyy I'm glad you asked Big D

Hamletmaschine, Heiner Müller

1: Family Scrapbook

I was Hamlet. I stood at the shore and talked with the surf BLABLA, the ruins of Europe in back of me. The bells tolled the state-funeral, murderer and widow a couple, the councillors goose-stepping behind the highranking carcass' coffin, bawling with badly paid grief WHO IS THE CORPSE IN THE HEARSE/ABOUT WHOM THERE'S SUCH A HUE AND CRY/'TIS THE CORPSE OF A GREAT/GIVER OF ALMS the lane formed by the populace, creation of the statecraft HE WAS A MAN HE TOOK THEM ALL FOR ALL. I stopped the funeral procession, I pried open the coffin with my sword, the blade broke, yet with the blunt remainder I succeeded, and I dispensed my dead procreator FLESH LIKE TO KEEP THE COMPANY OF FLESH among the bums around me. The mourning turned into rejoicing, the rejoicing into lipsmacking, on top of the empty coffin the murderer humped the widow LET ME HELP YOU UP, UNCLE, OPEN YOUR LEGS, MAMA. I laid down on the ground and listened to the world doing its turns in step with the putrefaction.
I'M GOOD HAMLET GI'ME A CAUSE FOR GRIEF
AH THE WHOLE GLOBE FOR A REAL SORROW
RICHARD THE THIRD I THE PRINCE-KILLING KING
OH MY PEOPLE WHAT HAVE I DONE UNTO THEE
I'M LUGGING MY OVERWEIGHT BRAIN LIKE A HUNCHBACK
CLOWN NUMBER TWO IN THE SPRING OF COMMUNISM
SOMETHING IS ROTTEN IN THIS AGE OF HOPE
LET'S DELVE IN EARTH AND BLOW HER AT THE MOON
Here comes the ghost who made me, the ax still in his skull. Keep your hat on, I know you've got one hole too many. I would my mother had one less when you were still of flesh: I would have been spared myself. Women should be sewed up - a world without mothers. We could butcher each other in peace and quiet, and with some confidence, if life gets too long for us or our throats too tight for our screams. What do you want of me? Is one state-funeral not enough for you? You old sponger. Is there no blood on your shoes? What's your corpse to me? Be glad the handle is sticking out, maybe you'll go to heaven. What are you waiting for? All the cocks have been butchered. Tomorrow morning has been cancelled.
SHALL I
AS IS THE CUSTOM STICK A PIECE OF IRON INTO
THE NEAREST FLESH OR THE SECOND BEST
TO LATCH UNTO IT SINCE THE WORLD IS SPINNING
LORD BREAK MY NECK WHILE I'M FALLING FROM AN
ALEHOUSE BENCH

There's a link to the best translation available, by Carl Weber. Basically dude is one of my favorite poets of all time, in any language. Criminally underappreciated and -read in the states; at the very least I think everyone should read that play I linked to.

/proselytize

PS. This:

"Müller himself directed a seven-and-a-half hour performance of Hamlet (in which Die Hamletmaschine was the play-within-a-play) in Berlin in 1990."

is fucking amazing, and I didn't know anything about it until today. If I had a time machine, I think that'd be at the top of the list.

[Babar]

Just finished reading Frank Miller's Ronin. The word "meh" comes to mind. The ending was pretty cool though and I guess it's also an important comic in an historical sense. Am about to begin reading Gaiman's The Sandman. I've heard nothing but good things about it so it better deliver. I'll post in this thread a lot more now that's it's summer, that's when i read comics.

[Andrew_TSKS]

actually, ronin is one of the few miller comics from that early on that no one really thought was all that amazing. sure, it was good for its time, but it hasn't made the longterm impression that other early stuff, like his work on daredevil and batman, did. i've never read it myself, but i've always heard that it was kinda meh, which is part of why i never bothered.

[jebreject]

Frank Miller is ovvveeeerrrrrrrrrrrrraaatttttttteeedddddd

[JamesSchneider]

Anyone not reading Alec Longstreth's stuff is silly. I reread my super-sexy New Frontier absolute today and it was still moving. Also Runaways is rewarding the second time thru, though with Vaughn that's no surprise. My best friend returned my copies of All Star Superman, which he mostly hated, which was heartbreaking, and the first Seven Soldiers trade has me pretty excited. Also, I'm a nerd.

[JamesSchneider]

actually, ronin is one of the few miller comics from that early on that no one really thought was all that amazing. sure, it was good for its time, but it hasn't made the longterm impression that other early stuff, like his work on daredevil and batman, did. i've never read it myself, but i've always heard that it was kinda meh, which is part of why i never bothered.

The worst is Hard Boiled. Oh good god. Some of the worst comicbooking I've ever seen.

[elpollodiablo]

Ronin sucked

[Babar]

Frank Miller is ovvveeeerrrrrrrrrrrrraaatttttttteeedddddd

Yeah perhaps, I love the Sin City series, but everything else i've read by him isn't nearly as good. I think Batman: The Dark Knight Returns' good. Just good. Not the best ever graphic novel of all time like it's sometimes described. That's just how it is, I guess, with influential works, whether in music, literature or what have you. imo anyway. I haven't given up on him though, i'm gonna check out his Daredevil stuff this summer.

[Andrew_TSKS]

james is right, hard boiled sucks and makes no fucking sense. also, i recommend "Batman Year One" over "the Dark Knight Returns", though I like them both. "The Dark Knight Strikes Back" is stupid. I'm a big fan of "Daredevil: Born Again", which is the last thing he wrote for that comic and might be my favorite Miller stuff ever. "Sin City" is good, what I've read of it. I think it's his last really good work. His current "All Star Batman and Robin" series is the worst piece of trash I've ever bought 8 issues of. I feel so ripped off.

[jebreject]

Dark Knight Returns is fantastic and a lot better than Year One, which was good, really good, but DKR was the coolest shit ever. Sin City is good and fun but I can only take so much.

[jebreject]

[Babar]

 

[Wally]

The thing about this photo is that it could have come from an LPTJ meet up. Dude on the right is Milly.

[G.C.R]

Chica with the bob is Mary, dude kneeling is greg, ectect

[YojimboMonkey]

That's... dare I say it?  Really very well done. 

Goddammit do NOT get my hopes up for this movie!!!

[Babar]

The Hooded Justice looks kinda cool, didn't think they'd be able to pull that off.

[YojimboMonkey]

They look for the most part like a bunch of doofuses in homemade costumes who get their kicks out of beating up criminals, which is EXACTLY how they should look.

[Robert]

Is it just me, or does the Comedian look a little too militaristic for what I'm assuming is the point in the story this should be from.

I thought he was still basically "40s clown" at this point...

[Greg Nog]

dude kneeling is greg

That dude is a sociopathic killer neocolonialist rapist who becomes increasingly unmoored with reality.

I would like to dispute the accusation that I will ever become a neocolonialist or rapist.

[YojimboMonkey]

Is it just me, or does the Comedian look a little too militaristic for what I'm assuming is the point in the story this should be from.

I thought he was still basically "40s clown" at this point...

isn't that pic taken just moments before he rapes the original silk spectre?  So he is still a creep.  I'll give you that he looks maybe a little older than he should at that point in time but if you look at the buttons and the collar, it's definitely a clownish suit, though a clownish suit with some militaristic style, which is kind of an interesting take given the eventual development of the character.

[Wally]

dude kneeling is greg

That dude is a sociopathic killer neocolonialist rapist who becomes increasingly unmoored with reality.

I would like to dispute the accusation that I will ever become a neocolonialist or rapist.

How about a neorapist or colonialist? Are you unmoored enough for that?