New TV Thread: I Hear NNY Helped Break Stories for FNL

[dieblucasdie]

Yeah, the extra episodes and the extended episodes on the order this year is a massive, massive mistake creatively.

Probably a good one financially though.  Oh, networks.

[elpollodiablo]

Yeah, that was pretty fucking ridiculous. But I thought driving into the lake was sort of his misguided way of making a point...? I dunno. Still kinda gimp, I admit. I'm sort of an apologist for this show, because I really love the characters and the dynamic they've developed and the first three seasons were friggin' excellent... They're probably just under a lot of pressure to push the envelope, and on this show that means more wackiness. Which is unfortunate. The understated, deadpan stuff plays a lot better.

And I'm with you on the hour-long episodes being a bit much. Works a lot better in smaller doses.

[diesel_powered]

Oooh... David Cross and Peter Bogdanovich on Law & Order...

[dieblucasdie]

David Cross is in everything.

[diesel_powered]

It's true. That's why he's teh sex.

Edit: Now he's on the Tim & Eric's Awesome Show.

[dieblucasdie]

Dear Hannah,

Why are bees aliens again?

Regards,

dieblucasdie

[hannah]

Dude, I can't help you with the conspiracy episodes, unless your question is about Agent Pendrell. I believe the bees help pollinate like the black alien virus thing thing thing, but that is easily a lie.

[Aglaya]

Has anyone else seen the D.I.N.G.B.A.T.S. commercial yet?  I had to try to explain to my friends why it made me laugh so hard.

[dieblucasdie]

Dude, I can't help you with the conspiracy episodes, unless your question is about Agent Pendrell. I believe the bees help pollinate like the black alien virus thing thing thing, but that is easily a lie.

Doesn't Pendrell turn out to be Mulder's brother or some bullshit?  God, the conspiracy episodes are so dumb.  I was *riveted* back in the day, but knowing that they just get more and more incomprehensible makes them hard to watch now.

[hannah]

No, I think that's Spender. DUDE.

Spender:

(N.B. Chris Owens also plays the Great Mutato and the young CSM.)

Pendrell:

More information HERE.

[hannah]

What season/episode are you at?

[hannah]

I have a question about an episode in the first season of The Wire. (I finished it yesterday, btw, the first season: yessss.) Since there must be other folks who haven't to seen it but do intend to watch the show eventually, I'll white out the following:

When Wee-Bey takes D'Angelo to show him his fishtanks, is D'Angelo freaking out because he thinks he's going to get killed? This seems to be the standard line of interpretation, and it definitely makes sense, but while I was watching it -- based on D'Angelo's obvious waffling and discomfort and desire to wash his hands of it all, which had started as early as the pilot -- I was certain that it was because he thought he was going to have to kill someone (Little Man, perhaps) or maybe discard of a body. Anyway, I'm happy to be wrong, but I was just wondering what others thought...

[Andrew_TSKS]

jesus, it's been so long since i saw it, i don't remember that at all. i'd have to watch the episode again.

[girl]

I have a question about an episode in the first season of The Wire. (I finished it yesterday, btw, the first season: yessss.) Since there must be other folks who haven't to seen it but do intend to watch the show eventually, I'll white out the following:

I think this:
When Wee-Bey takes D'Angelo to show him his fishtanks, is D'Angelo freaking out because he thinks he's going to get killed?
but your other interpretations also make sense.

[elpollodiablo]

I have a question about an episode in the first season of The Wire. (I finished it yesterday, btw, the first season: yessss.) Since there must be other folks who haven't to seen it but do intend to watch the show eventually, I'll white out the following:

When Wee-Bey takes D'Angelo to show him his fishtanks, is D'Angelo freaking out because he thinks he's going to get killed? This seems to be the standard line of interpretation, and it definitely makes sense, but while I was watching it -- based on D'Angelo's obvious waffling and discomfort and desire to wash his hands of it all, which had started as early as the pilot -- I was certain that it was because he thought he was going to have to kill someone (Little Man, perhaps) or maybe discard of a body. Anyway, I'm happy to be wrong, but I was just wondering what others thought...

Seriously? I never thought of that as ambiguous. I believe it's earlier in that episode that D and Bodie are discussing how Avon gets "when people get to fuckin' up." D is obviously shit-scared he's about to get popped: he isn't told where he's being taken, Bey (the stone cold hitter) is driving him into a dark alley, then walking up behind him in a dark room. It's got all the characteristics of a movie rub-out--think Goodfellas (which is probably what D was thinking, or something of the like).

Plus, it's not like D hasn't killed before. He threw some lead at Pooh Blanchard, heat of passion or not. I'm not sure that he'd do the dirt if Avon said so, but he definitely wouldn't react like he did.

Sorry if that's a little less than eloquent; I'm typing this as I watch a totally hilarious interview on O'Reilly.

[hannah]

Yeah, I get that. Except that Wee-Bey actually walks in front of him. And I assumed the not-telling-him-where-he's-going had more to do with avoiding wiretaps. Plus D is totally disgusted with all the blood on his hands, hence his stowing away in a Jersey jail in the last episode, however unsuccessfully. That said, it's not that important, and eventually I would like to rewatch that episode, because I'm sure there is a glaring clue I missed.

[elpollodiablo]

Good god the body language segments on O'Reilly are the fuckin tops when it comes to knee-slapping pseudo science

"The way she's opening her hands as she speaks, it's almost like she's opening her mind saying 'What can I say that the American people want to hear?'"

Woo, man.

[elpollodiablo]

Yeah, I get that. Except that Wee-Bey actually walks in front of him. And I assumed the not-telling-him-where-he's-going had more to do with avoiding wiretaps. Plus D is totally disgusted with all the blood on his hands, hence his stowing away in a Jersey jail in the last episode, however unsuccessfully. That said, it's not that important, and eventually I would like to rewatch that episode, because I'm sure there is a glaring clue I missed.

I dunno man, I just don't buy it. The whole episode on the street level is about Avon and them cleaning up; D knows the trash is getting taken out, and he figures he's going out with it. Besides, there's no precedent for it: Avon's got guys like Bey around for shit like that. As far as we know, D's never been ordered to carry out any violence.

[hannah]

True, yeah. Defeat, I concede you!

[elpollodiablo]

No, not at all! Let's talk more about the Wire! More! MORE!

Sorry if it seemed like I was gettin all up in yo grill; I've just got a very deep and unhealthy obsession with this show. I've probably seen that episode (and every episode from the first three seasons) four or five times. I was actually really surprised when you said Bey went in the house before D; I woulda sworn he stopped at the door, bitched at D, then made him walk in first.

See? Unhealthy! It's extended to my reading life. Also I'm watching Homicide. My pop cultural consumption is pretty much limited to murders in Baltimore!

[hannah]

Yeah, I think you're right about the Bey-D walking order -- my memory stopped at Bey bitching at him -- because D does walk into the room by himself and then Bey turns on the lights.

The second season should begin arriving Wednesday. Goddamn Columbus Day.

[elpollodiablo]

Dude, do you not have broadband? Srsly. Netflix is for suckas

[dieblucasdie]

What season/episode are you at?

Very beginning of Season 4; I just watched "Home" last night.  Haha wow the whole time you've been talking about your Pendrell love I was thinking of Spender.

Also miles is correct re: Wire

[elpollodiablo]

My god guys if you want a cheap smile turn on Fox News. Hannity and Coulter are shit scared of what's going to happen in the next 18 months.

[G.C.R]

I really have to watch the first two seasons a second time. And the next two for the first time. the Wire, I mean.

'Home' is one of my favourite episodes! its funny and also super scary!